One eyed Joe.....that made me laugh out loud.
I too have been touched by his noodley appendage. RAmen!
now this is a church an athiest would be really happy with.
hilarious!.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/flying_spaghetti_monster.
One eyed Joe.....that made me laugh out loud.
I too have been touched by his noodley appendage. RAmen!
let me start with a disclaimer: i am in no way minimizing the horrific crimes done to children by pedophiles.
i'm not downplaying the number of lives lost due to the blood issue, or hearts broken because of shunning.
i do not want to discount the feelings of those who have come to the end of their lives with expectations of paradise postponed.. but to me the biggest atrocity committed by this awful cult is raising children from a small age to believe that soon god will kill billions of people.
Its not about what is worst.
But......the fact we could have a legitimate conversation over what may be "worst" among a list of the horrific.....says something already.
the neighbor blows his leaves over onto my employee's yard, then denies it.
the neighbor's wife calls the police about anything and everything.. of course they're witnesses.
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If he wants to affect them, he could just see them dressed up going to meeting and ask them directly......you guys are jehovahs witnesses? that is shocking. i thought they were a kind peaceful people.....or some nonsense like that.
the shame function will click in.
if you were a jw and are now an atheist or agnostic, what was the tipping point that made you turn to it?.
the reason i ask is i have noticed that many who leave the jw's seem to turn to atheism, versus still having some form of a faith.
have many of you given up on god first or have you had atheistic views first and then found atheism to be true.
Here is my personal take on it. I am pretty sure there is not just one answer here, but I have thought about this personally before. I'm agnostic currently.
As a pioneer, servant, part of the "center" of the congregation, what really got me to leave was through time being able to be honest with things, despite where the honesty took me. I had ZERO desire to leave my religion. I wasn't being mistreated, molested, dealt with improperly (yet).......I just wanted to know what was true and what wasn't. So once i got a question about blood I couldn't answer, and allowed myself to research in a way that wasn't just trying to prove what i already held to be true.....the first brick fell.
that enabled me to think for myself. I followed what I found to be accurate, or in some cases personally meaningful to me, wherever it led me. It led me out of the religion of my youth, despite the high cost.
An unintended consequence, is it made me look into and be honest with myself about things int he bible that don't add up.
the flood
Origin of man
The homicidal nature of God
I could no longer just give a pass on these questions. I still question. But the old testemant in particular seems to really just be the writings of an ancient tribal culture justifying its actions through their God. If there is a God and he is loving, he probably doesn't appreciate the bible much. Then again if there is a God and he is loving, and not just waiting out the suffering on earth watching us stumble to improvement through the centuries because of a cosmic bet with one of his sons kids.......you see where I am going here?
I want to believe in more. But just in case I am living my one and only life, I don't want to waste it. And what I do know is that when my loved ones pass......they stop breathing and they are gone. No thinking, no sleep. Just the decomposing of their body that used to hold their thoughts. I have no reason to think I will be any different.
http://www.commentarypress.com/copyright/.
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https://youtu.be/fdzzl453drq.
Orphan crow,
I was thinking the EXACT same thing. The shame lies with the person doing this with Cynthia alive while she needed some of it to actually live off of, and it was her husbands work. They "paid" more than any publisher or advocate to write that book. Its a meaningful book, and should be made available to all at very little cost. But it should not be pirated.
I don't know who the original is. I don't know if we are both out of the loop, or if that is something not really known.
omg.
i have the entire service group coming over for dinner on sunday.
i don't mind when my wife has a couple over that are cool, but with more than 2 or 3 extra people in my house i get nervous.
Nah. Its your house. You got this. Welcome them, talk to them (not about anything JW related....change subjects), and enjoy yourself. Offer them beers, just be you, and show them you aren't a fire breathing satan worshiper.
Its your home. Your turf. Don't adjust for them. they are just people.
.just plucking up the courage to introduce myself....living in ireland but from the uk originally.
..drifted away due to depression (from all things truth related lol and bereavements and my m.s husband cheating on me and leaving !!
) few years ago but they recently hunted me down (they contacted me the day my other half was diagnosed with cancer!
Welcome. I can feel your pain. I'm so sorry. Its incredible to me to think that I used to justify this sort of treatment of people!
Maybe show them the video of Bro Jackson commenting that elders are not spiritual police that seek out people to enforce rules?
You are better off. I hope your family comes around. More than anything, I am sorry to hear about so much loss in your life.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/greece-refugee-camp-border_56707278e4b0fccee1703e8f.
this is what it states in the middle of the article:.
"around the idomeni camp, canteens have mushroomed to sell food to the refugees.
one of the businesses i cover is owned by jws and the father and 2 sons knew me as an active brother until 3 years ago when i told one of them i no longer attend the meeting.
today the father and one of the sons asked me if i was still inactive.
i told them it has been more than 5 years since i last been at a meeting.
I usually say something along the lines of, "the broadcast and brochure address leaving over guilt, anxiety, or some personal issue. But I left for matters of conscience, not any of those things."
so, here's some news from my country.
there was this 20 year old jw girl who was a rookie driver.
she was in the car with her parents and for some reason decided to cross a railroad right before a train was coming.